If you had read the thread entirely you would know I personally have had 3 toro,s over the yrs all with kohler engines so I recognize their traits . Otherwise the mower is a monster Ive run it through thick foot tall grass and it gobbles it without stalling. You win ewalk. the machine still seemed to starving for gas at the start until it cooled down then it ran fine. I've got a B&S with the auto choke, starts on the first pull cold, but kill it when hot and it won't start. you might check that out because you may be able to get a replacement that allows more fuel to flow through. Then I noticed some warning writing that said to change X at X interval and it mentioned this mower has a fuel filter. His no start "HOT" would appear to be a lean fuel condition cause . Start simple. btw B & S used to be made in MILWAUKEE where I live . No spark on the plug? NOW I think they make most in CHINA ?? (Never saw a push mower choke that didn't open all the way.) I did go through the posts and grab some of those items for future reference (copy/paste into a Word doc my friend). Put on your apron and be an OPE mechanic from then until it slows down. I have had no problems at all in the past. If we work hard at it, we can get "petard" back into the populace as it once was. Could be a failing coil. and the sticking valve. Verified. Cleaning a carb is an easy thing that pretty much anyone can handle if you have a socket set, $2 for carb cleaner at walmart and can follow a youtube video. lol. JavaScript is disabled. Sep 21, 2010 / Can't start Kohler engine after it get's hot. Mine once its warmer Im going to manually pull the choke on see if that helps the hot start problem. Also the causation of complaint are various . I just had a problem with mine 22" Kohler engine - and when I sprayed into the auto-choke with carb cleaner that fixed it $ 6 bottle of Startron and problems solved as to efuel issues ! It may not display this or other websites correctly. It seems to operate freely. You were fortunate that a simple float bowl cleaning and inlet needle valve and jet cleaning resolved your issue , had the internal fuel filter also have been compromised you would and still may in the future have runability issues with efuel use without fuel conditioner usage . I do not see gas leaking. Sad. No problem until a couple of days ago. I replaced part number 20 584 03-S, and in this vid. 2022 LawnMowerForum.com. The reason there's a no start when hot is no spark from the coil. The mower wants to start but nothing. I do not know if it has any relationship but I had a car like that. I bought it maybe 2-3 years ago, and it worked fine for a few months, then it wouldn't start. With the drought we have been having this year we won't be doing anymore mowing. Frankly, Houzz sent me a notification about this thread. Satisfied Customers: 631. Check to make sure gunk isn't stopping it from moving all the way. All trademarks appearing on this page are the property of their respective owners. It's the carburetor. @ssewalk1; thanks, much appreciated. He and I along with other very experienced forum members contribute diligently to expedite resolution to various member concerns . It cannot be over rated. if you checked fuel lines and filter, I've replaced the battery and the spark plug, have tested for spark, and it still just turns over and won't fire check . We and our partners use data for Personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. That confirms for me that the spark plug is working fine. Only thing Ive found is if you let it run on a cut section of Grass 10 seconds mine will start 9 out of 10 times While hot. We and our partners use cookies to Store and/or access information on a device. Ewalk, it's like you and Ray are sitting at the bar w/ a couple of biers and bowl on peanuts between you! The air filter is also new. The gas totally evaporated or leaked out some way. Power is perfected in weakness (pause, take a breathe). When you pull the starter rope, tabs extending from the pulley and cam should grab the hub on the . Though the grand prize is probably some knock off carb that won't run . Toro 20383 CoilThe machine runs fine for 45 minutes, sputters, I let it idle and it dies. Clean the carb. The choke plates will not be fully open often when warmed up they will be partially closed to ensure proper air / fuel mixture ratio . Roscoe it sounds like the little orifice at the entrance of the carb may be plugged. P.S. This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. I've never used a push mower with a fuel filter and am wondering if that is somehow clogged it would cause exactly what I'm experiencing. Hope this helps others. open air filter Spray starter fluid or gas in that will start it. AMEN TORO you lost 5 customers ( me and my 4 kids ). Completely cleaned it out, changed filters, drained tanks and refilled new, even put in a new plug in because, why not? Your issue appears often a few yrs down the road due to the therm o components failing or binding due to age , the bimetal coil unwind when heated by the muffler heat to provide liner movement to open the choke and contracts to close the choke when muffler cools . Primarily Efuel related , however some auto choke and perhaps valve lash adjustment issues have contributed to the Toro no start owner complaints . I couldn't see anything wrong or dirt, but it was causing mower to start then stop. The mechanism is adjustable , so you can clean and lubricate and then adjust if required ? Look, I know how to fix mowers. The gas dried. Toro could care less!! It worked for a few months, then it didn't. Luckily I have a HUSQUARA with a HONDA ENGINE that runs like a deer ! Like the guy here with the running hot problem. Half hour later it started right up and nearly finished mowing when it started to spatter and die. I guess I will have to just run it for a wile. You can take the straw from a carb spray can and get it dead center to blow through the main. I for one appreciate the detailed posts, great stuff - just add a measure of forgiveness into your lives and realize that texting/blogging is a bit flying blind. If the recoil starter assembly is defective, the engine won't start. Used maybe 1/2 dozen tim. Thank you God for the corn farmers, their lobbyists and ethanol gas, it's provided a steady stream of small engines with easy fixes. within this thread . It is very small it may be marginally restricted causing a vacuum flow condition upon HOT start up conditions when the choke is open ! Most choke plates don't open as far as you think they would on these. You are using an out of date browser. I have a 2 year old Toro 20374. I try to stickl with HONDA or KOHLER on all my stuff that burns gas. Find out why the choke doesn't open, perhaps making it run rich, or is it supposed to run that way? Remove the filter and see if it runs any differently without. Check the blade. this also should fix the lagg in power and slow starts. Sometimes you can pull the black lever end and rotate it slightly , but it should have a new stat. Some about a 1/3 rd or so and run good. This was all before I downloaded the manual because how hard can something that says "Guaranteed to start" right on the damn mower can it be! If its stopped while cutting it wont start with out starter fluid. Wondered when I saw the type of mower he was describing. When not in use, it has been stored in a wood shed in the backyard.I'm tired of cleaning out the damned thing. Especially on the L shaped choke stats and their version of a choke pull off. If you could close the choke manually Id imagine you could start it. You must take each individual op,s complaint on it own merits to accurately provide valid recommendations . Performance & security by Cloudflare. Sure. Ensure it is clean , just a little gum or debris will restrict it and cause hard starting also . sounds like a very good idea. This thread is historically long already . said: i heard that later model 26 hp fuel injected kohler engines (on the walker) have a fuel filter problem. @ tomplum at this rate perhaps 2 cases Bud ! Hotter than blazes. I think the problem guys is the B & S engine . You must log in or register to reply here. The part is not on any schematic!! Crazy place to put a filter without informing user. I agree for a 149cc engine they match the 160cc & 180cc cutting abilities . I didn't realize TORO USED them n. I inherited the toro 20374 from my BIL and it has the same problem. That seemed to work best for me. (I've seen plenty of mowers that won't start hot because the carb was dirty.) It was 22 inch recycler6.76 Kohlerengine. At the top of the choke arm you can adjust It. I swear for such a new mower to not get fuel seems difficult for me to imagine, and I just keep looking for a switch that is not letting fuel get to the engine!?!? Toro 22" Recycler can't get it started! Please help! - Houzz Before I try that can someone confirm who has this mower that there is no shutoff/off switch that I somehow missed? Did he check for spark when hot or just guessing? I hear they start better. You didn't read my comment if you think I was just referring to Briggs. For anyone just finding this thread, the problem is a dirty carburetor. . The engine is a Toro 159cc 6 year old mower.. Also, when hot, the choke plate is half way between wide open and closed. I wonder if increasing the float level a tad would help. Hey Tom enjoying Spring yet Bud ? Closing the carb makes it run rich, not lean. The carburetors are not plastic mostly white metal & stamped steel . I picked it up, fixed it in 20 minutes and sold it the next day for $125. The resulting residue in the carburetor is clogging the tiny holes that the gas must pass through to get into the engine. When ever you have good fuel flow, know that you also need to have a good vent. I live in California, so ethanol free gas is a rare find, usually everything is ~10%. Sep 19, 2016 / Toro Recycler won't start when hot. I would assume the choke plate would be fully open when the engine was hot. 217.16.185.203 That part is actually two pieces. I just want it to work NOW! There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. I think it's the power of humility! This wheel horse has a 15 hp kohler engine. I tried cleaning out the air filter and replaced the spark plug and changed the oil and added Seafoam to the new gas. As I previously stated they are adjustable to allow proper choke adjustment point as therm o choke unit ages . Rays scenario is the exception to rule i observed . So a really nice practically new mower that has probably only been used 5-10 times total. Your mileage may vary. No, Half a tank. That is what needs to be cleaned if there is sufficient flow to the carb. Absolute waste of time. This April I saw the first major inconvenience. So why duplicate this info , new info would be more beneficial ! Hire some help? The newer Kohle r models have a much stouter internal fuel filter or inline filter ! Omg. #1. Would love to send a cold one to you, and John, and more :). P.S.S. Wow what a post. The gas cap is vented. can't start Kohler engine after it get's hot. If I stop it and re-start within a few minutes, it works. Cloudflare Ray ID: 766e06f73b5ac1a8 Thanks for sharing your personal resolution , with the forum , much appreciated ! Is the grass too thick for the mower to handle? Further the problem described by enigma,s 2013 149 kohler again has been recognized as ethanol related fuel restrictions due to a fouled internal fuel filter or carburetor fuel circuits . We have two tractors at a cemetery were I volunteer to help out. Got half the back yard done when the engine began to sputter and lost power. I hadn't given that a thought. Likely water or debris in the fuel. Onward with the simple stuff. if I hold the choke rod open fully I do not experience this issue. Hire some help!!! Absolutely Ray can,t hurt with the adjustment tab . Not turning over. What if your lawn mower doesn't start anymore? The tiny part with the holes is the metering bolt on the Tecumseh or emulsion tube on most other small engines which distributes the fuel mixture to the primary main jet and the secondary primer circuits , yes these holes and the jets can become restricted by various forms of debris , gel , sludge or efuel waxing which is the most prevalent today . Found out on YouTube to clean the carburetor bowl and check the float because they are having problems with them sticking. I hear that there is a case of Molson riding on it. Bruce more importantly , have you thought that personal time is taken to assist people such as yourself troubleshoot your concerns . This is a well known issue with both the 149 and 159 Series engines that have lean burn epa style carbs and which carb choke plates are set to be 1/4 closed to compensate by enriching the air fuel mixture accordingly . Ray84 took the time to send a concise pic of the filter . did you take the carb off, did you mess with the float? nothing I did helped. 597 , the linkage your referring to is the choke pull off linkage , which controls the choke position thermostatically . Kohler Small engine won't start - Repair Clinic Guaranteed to start my petard! I has to replace a 2inch in diameter rubber O ring. New carb every 3 weeks should keep the oriental express thriving ! John , you apparently just cannot read . Both tractors have Kohler Command 20 two cylinders engines. Manage Settings FYI, the manufacturers narrow the jets to make them run lean. I just bought this mower 2 hours ago, went to change the bag and now will not start. An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. Iv had this on other identical mowers and have not yet found a solution. Pulled off carb/float bowl thing and wiped out cleaned and now it works. Was the spark blue, orange, etc? The choke is one of these that mount directly the muffler and is the size of about a fifty cent piece that mounts flat on the muffler. The previous owner left gas in the mower. Some of our partners may process your data as a part of their legitimate business interest without asking for consent. I don't know, I guess I'll have to take the choke apart and clean it to see if the auto choke is sticking. John, thanks for the reply. Thanks how much use does it get? I now have a full commercial Toro 22298 with the Kawi Kai it's a monster for a self propelled push mower . 66. I wish I would have seen these reviews first. Lawn mower recommendations for hilly back yard. So a really nice practically new mower that has probably only been used 5-10 times total. And I did it another 30-100 times using different techniques (holding down just the start pulley, holding down both the self-propel and the start, etc). 9 years ago. Totally disgusted!! hi, a lot of people are going to disagree, but you'll save a lot of time and aggravation by just getting a new carb. 21,336. I stuck a small stick to close the choke while I Started it then pulled it off after it starts. Kohler hot re-start problem | Lawn Mower Forum Worked pretty well for last few years. Good luck too you also ! Apparently your issue is auto choke related , unfortunately numerous causes are involved within the various complaints within this thread . Put the new (49 cent) gasket in. I've got about 5 or 6 bulletins on these XT chokes. No grass to try it on as of yet. Keep us posted Bud ! The spark plug - correct plug? 1 season with fuel left in it will destroy your carburetor. I can't stand anything in my house! In my case it was the ignition coil. By the way most B & S engine have leaky carbs sooner or later . ..So What is the problem???? Then Ill throw a manual choke pull on it. Kohler Ignition Coil - YouTube when you see those. Mower runs fine until I stop to change the bag. Wiggle them apart so you can access the jets - the part with the tiny holes I mentioned. Guy tossed one last week - told me it needed a new carb. Never saw a no start thread a mile long on those. Have a Toro with Kohler engine 2011 22 inch auto-choke same issue. I will definitely give that a try. Choke problem AND coil???? Have a new commercial Toro Kawasaki powered unit currently however have serviced numerous Briggs and Tec and Suzuki powered Toro s over the past 20 plus yrs so your preaching to the choir . Basically every couple of months I've gotta clean the carburetor out. Runs great again then problem returns. Also, the choke should be full open. DIY: Why Kohler Courage 20hp won't start KOHLER SV540 Check the exhaust. Want to build in Vancouver, BC. Bruce , just a additional info since you have the 149 cc Kohle r engine , @ the top of this thread Ray84 illustrated the small fuel filter within the fuel tank attached to the fuel line . The manual says 10% or less ethanol should be ok. The upgraded assembly is much stouter in design has solved the fail open issues . Good grief gentlemen and ladies, how about a little humility? HELP! P.S. Apr 22, 2012 / Kohler hot re-start problem. the government puts ethynol in the fuel and the chinese make the carbs. Please include what you were doing when this page came up and the Cloudflare Ray ID found at the bottom of this page. So I drained the fuel again and refilled with new (thinking there might have been water or something in the lines), drained the oil and refilled with new, and pulled and checked the spark plug. However his concern of valve train issues can,t be overlooked , although I would think his engine would further display the other routine lash symtoms. The main jet is in the stem of the carb. End complex. I hate throwing parts at this, I'll start with replacing the coil. So my hunch is that the mower is fine but not getting fuel. It starts and runs just fine but after it has run for a half. The one after you run it and it get's hot and shut it down you can't get it started again . Did this a couple more times and then got pissed and alternated between Sea Foam Deep Creep (another aerosol that removes carbon and buildup) and the MAF cleaner and was able to keep the engine going for a full 30sec before I stopped spraying, and it immediately went dead. I thought, "Oh out of gas". Put it back together and it ran. The most prevalent cause of these complaints is ethanol fuel related . The carb is a new OEM carb and I pulled the fuel filter to eliminate any possible issues with fuel restriction. What? Thank's for the good advice. Doesn't TORO CARE about its reputation ? So I cheated. Great for shop work though. But, start with gas cap. Still no dice. enigma7. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. As for this problem with kohlers you don,t bother wasting time with gas cap air vent restrictions , when experience and symptoms obviously dictates the problem with George's 159 Toro is coil related , although just loosening the cap would validate your position , rather than advising someone to poke at the rubber air vent poppet ., when compressed air is safer option , if actually required , which George has indicated was not . When you are cutting and need to bag change let it idle without cutting any Gras for 20 seconds. $36. Let's see. It works fine when I do that. I am not telling you the number of times I have tried to get the O ring in place. So then I took off the air intake and shot some MAF cleaner (highly flammable) into the intake and when I pulled the cord it immediately started for about 2 seconds and then went dead. And I figured the bit about cleaning the plastic carb was some new info. Is it possible the coil overheats and and won't restart until it cools a bit? Had to get rid of it in the end. Do you think replacing the carb would do anything, or do I just toss the whole thing and conform to California and get a POS electric mower? Did you ever clean the internal fuel filter within the fuel tank as illustrated by Ray84 in his comments within the above thread ? Checked for spark, no spark, ah, bad coil or wire. The coil replacement would be where to start in my opinion ! The throttle plate position you describe can be adjusted if needed . George , you are most likely correct in that your coil is breaking down . The action you just performed triggered the security solution. But after the mower sits a few days, the tank is empty. You tell them Mr Tomplum , I think I will buy some shares in offshore carbs . Answered in 14 minutes by: Technician: Robert P. Robert P, Small Engine Technician. :). The 100th commenter . So I did that and it didn't start. Remove the air filter and near the base of the bore look for the small brass insert and ensure that the little hole is open. starts fine cold then dies when hot . I don't need the info and wasn't a member and feel like it was a waste of time. @tomplum , just what I need another chinaclone carb yeehaw ! Could cause some people issues. George , this thermostat controlled auto choke engine is set lean from the factory . Cub Cadet LTX 1142 with Kohler Courage 19 HP SV470-620 engine. Tried today 60 times. failing plug? So you can clean out thee the carb paying particular attention to the float needle & seat and try again. Look on youtube for your model. ssewalk1 I just noticed your response to my first comment. Never did figure out what was wrong with it. Two years old with 87 hours on it. After starting it will run well for about 30 to 40 seconds or so then start to stumble for about 10 seconds, then runs OK for about 20 seconds, then goes back an forth doing this for about two and a half minutes then just starts to run well from then on. So thanks guys. I have replaced approx a dozen therm O Choke assemblies on these Kohlers over 10 yrs and 25-30 engines through the shop for everyday servicing . HELP! I let it idle and it died. It was an old Oldsmobile and it would not start once it was hot. 6 1/2 years Tech 3 Georgian College Small Motors Division. Mower runs sporadically. Where to start? Starts, runs a few seconds and shuts off. It should start fine each time. So after reading the manual and being sure I was doing it properly I started to second guess the fluids/parts. Toro 22" Recycler can't get it started! By then you could work in the fields harvesting, depending on your location. If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page. Hopefully Ray will get back to us when he has time to verify his valve lash , he appears to have a sound understanding of small engines and not at all a novice , hopefully he tops up the peanuts and beer , Cheers ! Than it will not start at all. Wheel Horse ,Kohler Engine, Will Not Start When Hot - YouTube Unfortunately disagreements do occur , comes with the territory , all good . Hi Everyone, So I inherited a 6 month old Toro 22" self-propelled Recycler mower from my BIL that moved away (think it's 149cc and 6.75HP but don't quote me on that). When I got it the gas had been drained but the oil was still in. However although I agree with the principle of the kiss system of trouble shooting , experience dictates certain cures for each individual manufacturer and engine model condition . So for a test you can try with the vapor return hose removed and verify that your gaskets are installed properly. Other than the increasing the float level as you suggest I am at a loss , yeah the old manual chokes or primers are so much simpler lol . Thank you! Feb 21, 2006. pro-turf mgt. #3. cfhartman said: can't start Kohler engine after it get's hot. The mower has to sit for a half hour or so before it will start. And I am not seeing humility barely make the ratings in our world today ssewalk1! The choke is open all the way and it needs a shot of gas or carb spray to start when hot. Seriously. I've repaired over 100 of these mowers and have 20 or so at my shop at the moment. I called Toro Home Office. Im working on a 2014 Toro XT6715-2070 149cc engine where its having issues on warm up. Please help! You failed to indicate if your no start condition was primarily Cold or Hot start problem ? Im sure Ill see this again so if anyone has any information for me that would be most helpful. This is ridiculous. After its ran for about 6 minutes it still does not fully open the choke butterfly. Will not restart until half an hour has passed. All this has been discussed previously with utube downloads etc. If it runs for a few seconds then dies, it's most likely a clogged air filter. So I have had my Toro recycler 22' With the Kohler Engine. Poke the little hole with a paper clip or pin. OK, group hug :)). Can you pull the carburetor bowl off and have a look? Spent 30min looking for an ON/choke/priming bulb only to realize (after downloading the .pdf manual) that it doesn't use a prime you just pull the handle. (Saw that comment on here.) Either that or buy a 23 " Toro next time. George. I have been a member of this forum for over 15 yrs and working on everything from mowers to chainsaws and trimmers and snowblowers etc for over 35 yrs so I know small engines as do Sax , Tomplum , and baymee etc . John , read the entire thread before you provide redundant blanket solutions , the engines of concern are Kohlers , Tecumseh not just Briggs & Stratton. @Bruce; every other week in the warmer months and probably every two to three weeks when it's colder. Is it packed with grass under the deck? Lawn Mowers. One thought as i was looking at the choke replacement It its adjustable. it worked a few months then stopped starting again. Carb was gummed up, so cleaned it out and added fuel stabilizer. Do you think every April they import boatloads of techs from the Bahamas and ship them back in fallOr where are they hiding? I fix every mower that comes my way. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It isn't. Once you check the simple stuff, think complex. The repair shop wants $80 to pick it up. Succinctly hit upon much. Continue with Recommended Cookies. Category: Small Engine. 05 - Recoil Starter. It must be perfect which is near impossible to accomplish. Every job has a skill set! You can email the site owner to let them know you were blocked. Problem started about a year ago. If the vent is clogged, it won't let gas into the engine. P.S. The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. P.S humility is highly over rated , although hugs accepted ! for any one who owns a toro 149cc guarantee start mower that wont start here is what u do.on top of carburetor there is linkage that goes to the exhaust .by the carburetor push it with your finger to the front of mower you Will feel it click then start it up never fails for me .it must be getting stuck for some reason haven't figured that part out yet. :) . Im sure it did sound like that. Problem was a lack of fuel issue caused by a dirty carb. You need to adjust the auto choke , it may be dirty or beginning to seize up from age . Bruce , what ever gets you through the day BroCudo,s ! Never again. Your IP: If your engine is the Briggs and Stratton with the plastic carb, be sure to pop out the white plastic part inside the carb. Again, no spark. The repair shop apparently is not aware that Spring comes every year. And it will be in the shop a month. All I have been thinking of has been compression or spark. But gas is dripping from the carburetor bowl. Tecumseh, Briggs, Kohler, etc. Can't start Kohler engine after it get's hot | Lawn Mower Forum #4. Good luck. . The gas into the carb. THEY ARE JUNK . Click to reveal I advised you that your concern could be caused or contributed to a tiny internal fuel filter that can become fouled by invisable efuel film , never did receive a reply back . Lawn tractor cold-starts and runs without a miss. 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